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床材研究
- こんばんは。私も床材について長く悩んでいます・・奥行きがないベランダのため雨が奥まで当たり、以前より天然素材物についてはカビが生え腐って、ことごとく失敗しています。笑。また、改修工事中なのですが、撤去にあたって重量物の移動に辟易してしまいました。・・で最近、プラスチックの枕木をネットで見かけたのです。広面積で耐水性もあり枕木より軽いみたいで・・。どうかな？？と思っているところです。 -- cocomo
- なるほど、天然素材はＮＧっぽいですよね。 以前マンション理事会でガーデニングについて質問したら、管理会社の人に、修繕の時には一時的に撤収しないといけないので、ほどほどがいいですよと言われました。 -- maco
- やっぱり軽くて、腐りにくい素材がお薦めという感じなのでしょうか。 -- maco
- 1軽くて、2腐りにくく、3ナチュラル感があって、4掃除がしやすい、5水濡れにも大丈夫。皆が望む条件ですね。僕も強く欲してます。誰かいい物があれば教えてください。倶楽部の皆で真剣に探しましょう（＾＾）/ -- ムッシュ
- う〜〜〜ん -- cocomo
- （↑すみません。入力途中でした・・）そういえば気になっているものがもうひとつあるんです。レンガなのですが、厚みが通常の半分位のもので。重量も半分。これをゴム素材のマットの上に敷き詰めたらどうでしょう？修繕工事がおわったら試しにやってみたいと思ってますが・・ -- cocomo
- 実は僕も同じような仕様に注目して検討しました。そこであくまでも僕の独自の評価なのですが、1は○か△、2は◎、3は◎、4は△か×、5は◎と思ってます。ゴム素材のマットは水はけがいいように、凸凹にある程度の高さが必要ですよ。テストしたところ数ミリ高では一日過ぎても、乾燥していませんでした。カビの発生がいやですものね。そこでmacoさんのブログ2008.11.25で紹介されてるジョイントベースのようなものを使うといいと思いますよ！ -- ムッシュ
- 床材って、歩くところはしっかりしたタイルとかウッドデッキが安定感があっていいと思うのですが、単に防水層の色を隠してカッコヨク見せたいというときに使える軽い素材がないかなと。玉砂利は意外に重くて私の細腕（？）ではしんどかったです。バークチップは虫が出るとか色がキツイとか臭いが独特とかネットにでていてちょっとためらっています。バークチップとかはどんなもんでしょうか？ -- maco
- ＞バークチップは虫が出るとか色がキツイとか臭いが独特とか・・・私はこの点は知りませんでしたが、風で飛ばされるので不適当じゃないかと思います。TOTOのバーセアですら強風の吹くようなところ（例えば16階以上）では設置できませんとカタログに書かれていますものね。うちは常に強い風が吹き渡ってますので、風には敏感なんですｳ～。 -- マダム
- macoさん改めましてこんばんは。cocomoと申します。バーグチップ試してみたことがあります。私の経験ですが残念ながらイマイチな印象でした・・マダムさんのおっしゃるように強風の後片付けに苦労しました。お隣さんの排水口まで飛ばされたので、箒で掻きだしたりして・・笑。梅雨の時期に敷き詰め、梅雨明けに白カビが発生しまして（哀）ごっそり捨てました・・。雨が当たらない部分に置けばもう少し長く楽しめたかもとは思いますが・・虫は出なかったように思います。 -- cocomo
- ムッシュさん、テスト済みですか。サスガです（＾＾）確かに、マットをそのまま敷いたら間違いなくカビますね。ジョイントベースですか〜なるほど。のちほどmacoさんのブログを拝見させていただきたいと思います。というわけでmacoさん、お邪魔しますね。宜しくお願い致します。 -- cocomo
- cocomoさん、こんにちは！ ジョイントベース良いですよ。 100角なので、切ったりしなくていいし、仕上げが自由に選べます。でも肝心の仕上げ材選びが難しいですよね。バークチップもＮＧですよね。皆さん、いろいろチャレンジされているんですね。情報交換できて、ホントに助かります。 -- maco
- macoさん、床材は皆がいいものないかな～と思いながら、情報の整理ができてないと思います。いかがでしょう『床材研究サークルのリーダー』なってくださりませんか？サークル会員はすぐに集まると思いますよ（＾＾）/是非是非 -- ムッシュ
- ムッシュさんへ そうですね。 なかなか情報の収集が・・・。 「床材研究サークル」って、倶楽部内のサークルという意味ですよね？是非やってみたいですが、どうやって立ち上げれば良いのでしょうか？ -- maco
- macoさんへ こちらの談話室はテーマに制限がありませんし新規が入れば古いのからいずれ削除しますが、サークルにするとテーマが絞られて、コメントもいつまでも残しやすいのが一番のメリットです。アジアンガーデンサークルが一例になるかとおもいます。サークルの立ち上げは簡単です。たとえば床材の必要条件とか商品紹介とか何でも、まずざっくりとした原稿をA4で1～2枚分くらいでExcel等で書いてください。最初の内容はmacoさんの思うがままでいいと思います。写真があるといいですね。面倒なHP化は僕がします。サークル名も自由に決めてください。きっと皆さん立ち上げを心待ちに待ってられますよ！ -- ムッシュ
- ムッシュさんへ わかりました。 ありがとうございます。 アジアンガーデンサークルを参考にさせていただき、まとめてみたいと思います。 -- maco
- macoさんへ。気楽に楽しみながら進めてくださいね。よろしくお願いしま～す。 -- ムッシュ
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